Based on the Lead with AI PRO live session with Brandon Sammut, Chief People and AI Transformation Officer at Zapier, and Tracy St.Dic, Global Head of Talent at Zapier, hosted by Henrik Jarleskog, Cofounder and Managing Director, Europe, at Lead with AI. PRO Members can watch the full recording here.
Zapier now requires 100% of new hires to clear an AI fluency bar, scored across four separate touchpoints in the hiring process.
Sammut and St.Dic joined Lead with AI's Pro Community, in a session moderated by Henrik Jarleskog, Cofounder and Managing Director, Europe, at Lead with AI, to walk through the infrastructure behind that number: two new systems called golden paths and a company-wide context layer, plus a hiring philosophy St.Dic summed up as "slope over snapshot."
It's Sammut's second time with Lead with AI. He first joined in August 2025 as Chief People Officer; he now carries the added title Chief People and AI Transformation Officer, a small but telling signal that AI transformation has become a standing mandate at Zapier rather than a side project inside HR.
This time St.Dic joined him, bringing a level of hiring-mechanics detail the first session didn't cover.
What was Zapier's "Code Red" moment for AI?
Sammut opened with the story that anchors Zapier's AI journey, and that longtime Lead with AI readers may recognize from his first session: Zapier's Code Red began in March 2023, about six months after ChatGPT's first model hit the market.
"We started noticing that even that, you know, it's an ancient version of an LLM now, but even that version, 13 quarters ago, could use API documentation and write integrations like we build here at Zapier," - Brandon Sammut, Chief People and AI Transformation Officer, Zapier
He described the moment as a two-sided coin:
"On one hand, it's exciting, because that means we can use AI to do the things that we do best even better. The other side of the coin is that now a lot of other people, right, can do the same thing."
For a company whose mission is to make automation work for everyone, that cut both ways: AI was either the biggest opportunity Zapier had seen since 2011, or one of its biggest challenges.
St.Dic, on this call for the first time, added her own memory of the response: a company-wide hackathon that has since become a recurring, quarterly ritual.
"We wanted everybody hands-on keyboards experimenting with this technology. It wasn't just lip service, it was like, no, no, no, they are telling us it is okay to stop my day-to-day job." – Tracy St.Dic, Global Head of Talent at Zapier







